Jerick Ludhowe
Wraiths of Abaddon
Byzantine Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.12 17:03:00 -
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mxzf wrote::\ I'm not really sure you understand CSes at all. They are already in demand in PvP fleets for the bonuses that they provide, but they aren't designed to be regular line ships, they have a specific role which they excel at (hint: their role isn't DPS).
Field Commands are essentially t2 variants of the tier 1 bcs. They are geared towards combat and carry over the combat style of their "little brothers" while adding an additional two bonuses and half assed t2 resists to each hull. Fleet Commands on the other had are what you're trying to talk about. They are geared towards proving improvements to racial links while sporting some of the hardest tanks to break in the game due to having full t2 resists unlike their field command brothers.
Now back to the op...
Commands of all types need buffs however I'm going to avoid dashing into the rehashed topic of the fleets just because it has beaten to death so many times.
The issue with Field commands is mainly based around when they were introduced and many of the ships that have been seeded since their implementation. Field Commands are based off of tier 1 BCs and each have +1 slot, -1 rig, +2 bonuses, and generally increased fittings allowing for more liberal fits. This all seems great on paper however there are some more specific issues that lead these ships to be underwhelmers compared to tech 3 cruisers, and even tier 2 bcs.
1. First major area of concern is going to be the total number of slots available to these ships. All field commands essentially have the same total number of slots as the tier 1 bcs through the addition of 1 slot and the removal of a rig slot. Compared to tier 2 BCs they all have 2 fewer slots, 1 less normal slot, and 1 less rig slot. In the case of the sleipnir and astarte this is not entirley true though. Sleipnir has 1 more slot than any of the other field commands so it has 1 less total slots compared to the cane, the myrmidon also has 1 less slot than other tier 2 bcs (because of large drone bay) meaning that the astarte has 1 less total slot compared to it.
Conclusion: +1 slot to Astarte, Absolution, and Nighthawk.
2. My second major area of concern has to do with base line hp values present on Field Command ships. As i'm sure i'm not the only person to notice this... Field Commands have lower base hp values than the tier 1 bcs they are based off of. Tier 1 bcs have less base hp than tier 2s meaning that Field Commands have a significant disadvantage in raw hp values when comparing them to tier 2 bcs. Some of you like myself may have asked yourself "why"... I have an answer for you. It has to do with the implementation of Field Commands many many years ago prior to an HP buff than many of you have probably never heard of.
After the implementation of Field Commands, BC hp values were increased to minimize the power gap between them and BS. This is not the universal hp buff the game received that was applied to all hulls, This was a different bc specific hp buff. Problem with this hp buff is that for some silly reason ccp did not apply it to the field commands that were based off these tier 1 bcs. Result was that field commands that had higher base hp values than tier 1 bcs before the buff ended up having lower base hp values than the t1 bcs they were based off of after the buff.
Conclusion: Rectify this 6+ year old mistake and increase hp values on field commands to be greater than their tech 1 counterparts. Almost all other combat related t2 ships in the game have a significant base hp advantage compared to their tech 1 parents. I fail to see why Field Commands should be any different. |
Jerick Ludhowe
Wraiths of Abaddon
Byzantine Empire
74
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Posted - 2012.05.12 23:54:00 -
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Boomhaur wrote:I fly a nighthawk it doesn't need to be buffed I do just fine. But hay if you want to convince people it sucks please do so I wouldn't mind a buff, especially if they add another +1 launcher and another high slot.
Does not take any convincing. Ship sucks... Just because you "do just fine" does not mean the ship you're "doing just fine" in is any good. Hell I can "do just fine" in a ratting eos, does not mean it's any good.
Nighthawk is bar none the worst of the field commands. Has low dps, only 5 mids and is like 200 grid shy of any kind of reasonable pvp fit. The Nighthawk is and has been a running joke for like 5+ years.
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